Facts On Ontario’s Dove Hunt

More Facts Regarding Ontario’s Dove Hunting Season

An Assessment on the Feasibility of Reinstatement of a Mourning Dove Hunting Season in Ontario

Canadian Wildlife Service – Ontario Region

17 September 2011

Background 

Mourning Doves (Zenaida macroura) are one of the most abundant and widely distributed birds in North America. Fall population estimates for the United States (U.S.) alone range from 350 to 475 million birds (Dunks et al. 1982, Otis et al. 2008). This species breeds from southern Canada throughout the U.S., all Caribbean Islands and into Mexico. Mourning Doves will winter throughout much of the breeding range, but the majority of birds migrate to winter in the southern U.S., Mexico and further south into some areas of Central America. Although at the northern part of their range, Mourning Doves are a common bird of rural and urban areas throughout most of southern Canada.

The Mourning Dove is listed as a migratory game bird under the Migratory Birds Convention and is thus subject to federal protection and regulation in both Canada and the U.S. Environment Canada is the federal agency with the responsibility to ensure conservation and management of migratory birds, including Mourning Dove, in Canada. In the U.S., protection, conservation, and management of migratory birds is the responsibility of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).

Mourning Doves are one of the most popular and heavily harvested North American game birds, particularly in the U.S. where they are hunted in 40 of 50 states. In the U.S., approximately 1 million hunters annually harvest about 15 to 20 million of these birds, typically representing 5% to 10% of the estimated fall population (Otis et al. 2008). Data from the 2010/11 hunting season shows that an estimated 960,000 hunters harvested 17.2 million doves across the Eastern (EMU), Central (CMU) and Western (WMU) dove Management Units in the U.S. (Seamans et al. 2011). Mourning Doves are also harvested in Mexico and Central America, but no reliable harvest estimates are available for those areas (Otis et al. 2008).

Hunting Mourning Doves is much less common and harvest is much lower in Canada than in the U.S. To date, only two provinces have instated dove hunting seasons, British Columbia and Ontario. British Columbia is currently the only province with an annual Mourning Dove hunting season which was instated in 1960. In recent years, hunter numbers and harvest have declined with fewer than 100 hunters estimated to take part 2

in the harvest and the estimated number of doves harvested as low as 200 per year (Environment Canada, National Harvest Survey data).

Ontario was the first province to instate a Mourning Dove hunting season in 1955. Purportedly, only a small number of birds (~ 300) were harvested during the 1955 season (Anonymous 1956 in Reeves 1993). At that time there likely was low interest and low hunter participation because Mourning Doves were much less abundant and less widespread throughout the province than at the present time. The Mourning Dove hunt was in effect for only the 1955 season in Ontario season, and doves have not been hunted in the province since that time. However, over the past several years hunters have become increasingly interested in reinstatement of a Mourning Dove season in Ontario.

Over the past 5 years, the Canadian Wildlife Service – Ontario Region (CWS – ON) has received requests from hunting organizations and individual hunters (Appendix 1) to reinstate an annual fall Mourning Dove hunt in the province. The Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters (OFAH), one of the largest organizations representing Ontario hunters’ interests, has requested and financed independent studies (conducted by Long Point Waterfowl) evaluating Mourning Dove population dynamics and public opinion of instating a hunting season in the province (Barney et al. 2007). These studies highlight that Mourning Doves have undergone considerable increases in both population size (winter) and breeding distribution throughout the province over the last three decades and are hunted sustainably in adjacent U.S. states which have comparable abundance indices to Ontario. Further, results from a public opinion poll showed that most Ontario residents questioned in 2006 would support a hunting season (58% in favor, 25% neutral and 17% opposed) if they could be harvested sustainably (Barney et al. 2007). The OFAH also draws attention to the economic benefits and increased hunting opportunity for Ontario residents that would result from having a dove hunting season.

 

Get out with your kids and friends and enjoy some time in the field,

Dove hunting is challenging and a great way to enjoy October day

Dr, Scott Petrie and son enjoy time together during a Dove hunt in SW Ontario For more info check out www.longpointwaterfowl.org

Dr, Scott Petrie and son enjoy time together during a Dove hunt in SW Ontario
For more info check out www.longpointwaterfowl.org

Response to Ontario’s Dove Hunting Season

Dr. Scott Petrie response to Charles Cecile concerns regarding Ontario’s Dove Hunting Season

 

As a media recipient of Dr Scott Petrie email about Dove hunting I felt this topic important.

Please contact either person if you have concerns,

BUT please  respect their views  and stay on topic

 

Subject: RE: Mourning Dove Hunt
From: “Scott Petrie” <spetrie@longpointwaterfowl.org>
Date: Wed, September 25, 2013 11:31 pm
To: “Charles Cecile” <carex2@gmail.com>

From: Charles Cecile <esnell@sentex.net>
Date: Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Subject: [Ontbirds] Ontario Doves
To: birdalert@ontbirds.caHi Birders,The Canadian Wildlife Service (Environment Canada) has changed its Migratory Bird Hunting Regulations to allow the hunting of Mourning Doves in central and southern Ontario starting this fall.  This is an area of Ontario that hosts many breeding and migrating bird species.My understanding is that the hunt is mainly for target practice and sport for hunters.  But how many other bird species will be shot by frustrated or ignorant hunters?

Shame on Scott Petrie (Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters, Long Point Waterfowl) for pushing to get this hunt approved.  He is reported to have said that “the dove hunt will be great for young hunters. “Because we have so many (doves), it’s a good opportunity for them to get out and shoot and practise their skills.”http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4051895-doves-get-another-reason-to-mourn-in-september/

( You can respond to cseto@guelphmercury.com about the above article )

Apparently, Birds Studies Canada (Port Rowan) hasn’t taken an official position on the hunt.

If you care about this issue, let your opinions be known to those who make these decisions!  Write to: Jack Hughes, manager of population conservation with Canadian Wildlife Service Ontario, Environment Canada.

Charles Cecile

From Dr. Scott Pertrie

Mr. Cecile,
It has come to my attention that you have a limited understanding of the Ontario Mourning Dove hunt and the importance of hunting in general. I have attached several documents that you should read prior to making public statements about any form of hunting or about my contributions to our hunting heritage.
There are two possible scenarios here, 1/ you will ignore my suggestion to read these document and will continue your ill-informed and counterproductive ways/announcements, or 2/ you will read these attachments, thereby becoming informed about the importance of hunting and the potential for birders and hunters to team-up for conservation, following which you will send a retraction to Ontbirds and an apology to me.
For all involved, I sure hope you make the right choice!
Dr. Scott Petrie
Mr. Cecile,
I generally try to avoid discussions with people that make illogical and ill-informed statements. However, as you opted to make your absurdities public (which you were chastised for), I will respond. See my responses (in bold) to your comments in red below:
Dr. Petrie,  
First let me say that I was very disappointed to read about the Mourning Dove hunt that is taking place in here in Ontario.  Mourning Doves are small birds compared to game species such as waterfowl and as such would provide little meat to eat. 
 
Totally illogical as humans eat many small birds, animals and invertebrates, e.g., woodcock, sardines, mussels, frogs legs, etc. What matters is that doves are the most abundant game bird in North America and they are delicious.
However, what really worries me is that many other species of birds may be shot as less knowledgeable hunters see very fast flying birds going by.  I can think of many songbirds and accipiters that may sit on hydro wires and fly quickly by.
 
It is illegal to shoot from roadways making most hydro wires off limits to hunters. Also, hunters are taught not to shoot birds from wires and we prefer the added difficulty of shooting birds on the wing. 
Doves are harvested in 40 states and one other province. Surely if incidental harvest of non-game species was an issue then it would have been reported/studied. Please direct me to the reports/studies upon which you base this concern.
I don’t want to get into a discussion about the values and ethics of hunting with you.  I think that we can agree to disagree on that.
Of course you don’t want to get into this discussion with me!! One of the inconvenient truths is that hunters are MUCH more philanthropic when it comes to contributing to conservation. In fact, hunters give 12 dollars for every dollar that non-hunters do. As predicted, you didn’t read the reports that I sent you!
But I am concerned about the process that led to Environment Canada’s changing the hunting regulations. 
That’s because you know little or nothing about the process and you failed to even realize that there was a consultation period.
I have yet to speak to or hear from any birder in Ontario who knew about the Mourning Dove hunt prior to the article on the hunt that appeared in the K-W Record newspaper back in late August.  I contacted Ontario Nature who informed me that they didn’t know about the hunt until very recently.  And apparently, Nature Canada also didn’t know about the changes in the hunting regulations.  These are organizations with thousands of members.
 
I have spoken with many birders that were aware about the consultation process. Based on the fact that CWS extended the consultation period from 1 year to 2, any person or organization that was not informed can only blame themselves.    
I feel that Environment Canada’s and Canadian Wildlife Services’ consultation process was too limited and that more extensive consultation should have occurred with the birding community.
See above – I suggest that if you want to comment on regulatory changes then you should access the reports that are in the public domain and are widely disseminated, including to a number of animal rights groups.  
I’ve noted the CWS document you sent on how population estimates and dynamics of Mourning Doves were arrived at.  However, I didn’t see a study or assessment of what impacts the hunt would have on other bird species.  Did CWS carry out any such studies?
No, and why should they? If you feel that they should conduct such studies then provide them with the evidence (scientific or even anecdotal) that the US dove hunts impact other species.
If you feel that my comments with respect to you were offensive, then I am sorry.  I was referring to your comments that were reported in the Record article.  If you were misquoted in the Record article, please let me know.  I do feel that Ontario residents should have been better informed of the proposed changes to the Migratory Bird Hunting Regulations prior to a decision being made.
I wasn’t misquoted in the article – there are many ecological, economic and social benefits associated with a Mourning Dove season in ON and your comments have done absolutely nothing to change my mind! I ask that you stop using your ill-informed anti-hunting sentiments to drive a wedge between birders and hunters!
Charles Cecile carex2@gmail.com

Again any feedback or concerns please keep it respectful and on topic

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